Islam vs. Islamists

The documentary titled “Islam vs. Islamists,” was produced by ABG Films with $675,000 in public funds from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. It was originally slated to run as part of PBS’ “America at a Crossroads” series. However, after viewing the film PBS executives told the filmmakers that it was “alarmist” and “overreaching” and that PBS would not run it.

2013-12-16_20-13-05The film follows moderate Muslims who have challenged the “Islamists” who espouse a more radical view of their religion. The film shows the Islamists advocating, among other things, the imposition of Sharia law on Muslims in the West, the stoning of women who commit adultery, and even violence and terrorism.

The film, also produced by filmamker Martyn Burke, Frank Gaffney, a former Reagan administration official and Islamism expert Alex Alexiev, follows the stories of moderates at the flashpoints of jihadism: politician Naser Khader in Denmark, filmmaker Mohammed Sifaoui in France, talk-show host Tarek Fatah in Canada, former Nation of Islam member Edmond Abdul Hafeez in Chicago and Sheikh Kabbani, a Flint, Mich., imam who warned State Department officials of Usama bin Laden’s terrorism influence three years before the Sept. 11 attacks.

“The cancer that is within our community is I don’t believe the majority,” said Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser, a Wisconsin-born Muslim who lives in Arizona, in the film. “I think it’s a minority, it’s a minor, minor, minor, minority that are radicalized or violent but the majority I believe look at the lens of politics through an Islamist lens.

“If we give them and let them handle the mantle of religion that they seek to exploit for their own geo-political issues all over the globe, then we are really going to lose this war.”

Burke and Frank Gaffney, a former Reagan administration official, said that they made a series of changes to accommodate PBS. Ultimately, however, they concluded the problem wasn’t their film, but liberal bias at PBS.

In an interview with FOX News, Burke makes explosives charges about the PBS executives he dealt with, Jeff Bieber and Leo Eaton.

“In the first meeting, they said to me, ‘Fire your partners.'” Burke said. “And I said ‘Why?’ They said, ‘Because they are conservatives.'”

Burke said the PBS executives most forcefully objected to Gaffney’s involvement, asking, “‘Don’t you check into the politics of the people you work with?’ I said ‘No. I never have and I never will.’

“I had done a film on the Hollywood 10 on blacklisting in Hollywood where the leftwing was blacklisted and now it was the left trying to blacklist the right,” he added. “I thought I was living in an Alice in Wonderland mirror image.”

Gaffney believes the main thrust of PBS’s objections was that the Islamists portrayed in the film were not really radicals, but part of the Islamic mainstream. He said PBS tried “to change the story, to bring more of an Islamist flavor to it.”

The dispute between ABG Films and PBS initially became public last winter, was amplified by talk radio, debated in blogs and on newspaper editorial pages, and sparked calls for a congressional investigation.

ABG Films demanded that PBS either run “Islam vs. Islamists” as part of its “America at a Crossroads” series, or allow it to be broadcast on another network.

Last spring ABG Films and PBS reached a compromise. The PBS network would not run “Islam vs. Islamists” in the “America at a Crossroads” series, but Oregon Public Television would make the film available to individual public TV stations to run when those stations wished.

According to figures provided FOX News by ABG Films, “Islam v. Islamist” has run on more than 70 public TV stations, but not in at least 15 of the top 40 markets including New York, Los Angeles, Chicago or Washington, D.C.

Islam vs. Islamists from Tarek Fatah on Vimeo.

25 comments for “Islam vs. Islamists

  1. Joy
    December 22, 2013 at 3:01 AM

    Dear Sir,

    Its a good piece of the covert war, with this now its quiet clear which wing of these muslims are really involved into this.

    it was really informative, and a serious note. but what i consider the main problem is the same as good old saying – “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

    I’ve seen this personally here back in India also, a couple of friend’s of mine, saying something in public forums and then saying something different in private forum, and the worst part, If they even know that something has been done wrong, they don’t oppose it. not at anycost. just keep saying that also in private, that because of just a few you cannot blame every muslim.

    I really appreciate you for being raising the voice for the right.

    With Best Regards,

  2. Efsha
    April 27, 2014 at 10:19 PM

    Those muslims who mix politic and religion are in relationship to reactionary forces in the western society. Those reactionary forces who sent Ben Laden to Afghanistan to fight against communist forces or forces who help Khomeini to reach to powar.
    These fanatics are Islamic version of Fascism like Hitler regime. These Muslims are not religious but they are practicing politics. These fanatic muslims are against people. They are trying to push reactionary forces agendas.

  3. Desreeli
    November 18, 2014 at 5:27 AM

    I completely agree with “Efsha”, when saying “Those muslims who mix politic and religion are in relationship to reactionary forces in western society”: for they are antidemocratic, anti-women, in favour of killing as “punishment”… Ethically, it’s like going back to the Middle Ages.

    • Naveed
      March 12, 2017 at 5:58 PM

      What ISIS doing same is done by Prophet M.

  4. January 24, 2015 at 10:28 PM

    Nobody wants to be left out so follow religious communities with a care a damn and radicals are only making a living they have no other means

  5. Ramesh Shah
    April 12, 2015 at 11:00 PM

    How can Muslims be bad and the religion they follow be good. May be the terrorists are taking Koranic injunctions out of context, but they are there in Koran, aren’t they? Someone so aptly described the difference between moderate Muslim and a Jehadi Terrorist. When a Jehadi cuts the victims head, the moderate holds victim’s legs.

      December 7, 2016 at 9:28 AM

      you are confused..

  6. April 24, 2015 at 11:52 PM

    The A,B,C’s of Islamists in a Huge Nutshell

    Apostasy for those who get wise and renounce islam, appeasement appreciated in response to intimidation, acid attacks for a change up for killing, anti-semitism in general, beheadings, bombings, brainwashing,burkas (health and security risks), boring culture promoted for fear of enjoyment of life, burying alive, beastiality to cover the b’s, clitorectomy, crucifying, child brides, censoring liberally, cult, cannibalism for the c’s, dhimmitude offered for dummies, executions, electrocutions, fire-bombings, fatwas, garroting, genital mutilations, genocide of non-muslims as well as muslims moving right along, hangings, infidel branding, infanticide,incivism, incest rampant throughout islam, isolationism, illiteracy throughout islam, iman islands of control unto themselves, jihadist fanaticism, jizya tax, kaffir branding, lashing, mangling, mutilation, murder, mob mentality, mental retardation from incest (no surprise here), mohammed (name of every other muslim in this world), no-go zones (no pleasure zones), nazi sympathizing (actual muslim nazi divisions in WWII), oochlocracy, oppression (reward for muslim women), pedophile prophet and followers, plagiarisim of many western inventions, polls showing moderates true feelings agreeing with terrorism, anti-pluralistic, polygamous harems, quranic bipolar verses of contradiction mecca versus medina, raping regularly, rocket firing regularly, revenge killing as needed, stoning including family as needed, slavery (bring the seventh century to the modern world), submission to islamic god or else, starvation for vanquished, sharia for the mob, science muslim style (make it up), seventh century dogma to die by, sociopathic antisocial misfits, taqiyya (sacred deception), torturing in general, terror cells, uterus purification (wash it up after all the rapes), virgins 72 (why not 73?, 146?), verses of violence (naturally), whipping wives like dogs, xenophobia (as in Islamic jihadist hatred for western culture), you tube (all those “workplace violence” terrorists screaming allahu akbar and all those wonderfully miserable muslim moderates gone jihadist to perpetrate hell upon the world past, present and future with the help of western scumbag “leaders”), zabh (as in cutting throats).

  7. Joy freedom
    December 26, 2015 at 7:43 PM

    Why have no fatwas been issued against radical Islamist groups and ideology? If jihad was so haram, there would be numerous fatwas calling for their deaths.

    • Mohd Zaid
      January 11, 2017 at 9:34 AM

      Actually Jihad, as we know it, isn’t haram. It comes with a set of rules- one of them being fight those non believers who fight you, the non believers being both muslims and non-muslims. Unfrtunately, the likes of ISIL are intimidating less educated(in Islamic theology) and brain washing them in the name of Jihad, which is actually pseudo-Jihad as i like to call it..

  8. Henry
    February 15, 2016 at 3:10 PM
  9. Siba
    November 19, 2016 at 11:12 AM

    Great & really brave work from these peace makers. With this kind of mentality of Imams no Muslim can live peacefully in a democratic country. All Muslims who follow Soudi Imams must stay inside Soudi Arabia only.

  10. tanweer shaikh
    January 22, 2017 at 12:30 AM

    tarek fatah ek shaitan hai jo taslima nasreen or salman rasheed ki tarah ek bhayanak fitna hai jo intihai badtameez insan hai.

    • Shitanshu Mishra
      January 25, 2017 at 3:57 AM

      Ye to sirf gaaliyaan hui, Aur jo gaali detaa hai uski baat par koi bharosaa kyun kare!

    • Shitanshu Mishra
      January 25, 2017 at 3:58 AM

      Tanveer Shaikh Ji, Ye to aap sirf gaaliyaan de rahe hain, aur jo gaali detaa hai uski baat par koi bharosaa kyun kare!

    • December 18, 2017 at 3:14 AM

      aur tu kaun hai? Kya islam ne tere sochne aur dekhne ki taaqat ko khatm kar diya? Abe chu*** haiwaan, tum logon ka islam hai Islam of the Mullahs and not the Isalm of Allah. Tum logon ko allah aur mullah ke beech farak nazar hi nahi aata, majhabi andhe gaad*

  11. UkB
    January 22, 2017 at 11:05 AM

    Tarek fatah is a good and intelligent, educated person, who can say truth without any hesitation

  12. sunny
    January 22, 2017 at 3:53 PM

    Main india me hi rehta hu ek bat share karta hu …….mere ghar k paas me ek ancient mosque h aur jb kbi bachpan me main waha jata tha to waha k larke kehte the k hindu ko nhi ana h…..this is just hatred

  13. pat beechey
    April 19, 2017 at 8:35 PM

    Tarek is brave and courageous, we need thousands more like him. I will not be silenced, but my heart is breaking to see what is happening in the world and right here in Canada. I am embarrassed to see our Prime Minister in action, what a naïve fool. Do you think there is any hope for those of us who just want to live and let live?

  14. Mohit saxena
    October 24, 2017 at 4:32 AM

    Hii sir
    I m huge fan of yours… I have listen your many debate and interviews… You told everything with fact and reality… I want to congrats you… You have the god power… Please keep it up and raise your voice loud… There are little who have listen you yet… Its only.00001%…please do something more so that every hindustani can know actual thing… Muslim need to literate the truth about there religion…. Thanks

  15. George
    January 1, 2018 at 10:28 PM

    “Gaffney believes the main thrust of PBS’s objections was that the Islamists portrayed in the film were not really radicals, but part of the Islamic mainstream.”

    That is a riddle the world might do well to face with absolute sobriety and resoluteness. Muslims and non alike.

  16. Rehan
    April 12, 2018 at 11:46 AM

    Hi Mr,
    I am Rehan from Pakistan. I want to talk about Ghzwa E Hind.
    Please give me your phone number i will call you then discuss.

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